Hide form in outro

Hello
I have a form in the outro of another form and I want to be able to hide or display it.

I have tried hiding the group on the form, but it leaves the form itself.

Is there a way to hide either the form or outro?

Thanks
 
Oops sorry
My intention is to have it hidden all of the time, and use formX_js to show it depending on a button click.
 
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