List Pre-filter not to be used in forms

[startpoint]

List have joined tables with pre-filters.
How to exclude list pre-filter from form view?
List and details view must be pre-filtered.

 

[troester]

What I can think of:

- an additional pre-filter OR, id IN ..., type eval, php code examins the URL params, if(view = form) return all ids, else none

- a list copy B without pre-filters, the edit link of the original list going to form B, form B with redirect to list A.

 

[startpoint]

Thanks for the suggestion. I will test it.
Although I don't want to copy the list.
There is a problem adding a new element, changing the element group, etc.